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Genealogy => Worcester Irish Genealogy/History => Topic started by: merski on June 15, 2005, 04:01:30 AM
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In my St. John's cemetery database i have found several Dee and Day (which appears to be an alternate spelling) burials
Michael Day Garr_ v_ oone Parish of Carrick Beg co. Waterford died Aug. 3, 18__ age 35 yrs (O'Flynn says he is from Fermer b.1813)
John Dee Co. Waterford born or died1848, Bridget Kiley his wife born or died 1841, Richard Dee 1863-1910
O'Flynn also mentions in his notes james Dee from Flews Co. Waterfordb. 25 Dec. 1814 arrived in Boston 20 Mar. 1839...he may have gotten this from naturalizations, which may have been in the newspaper. O'Flynn was an 1870-1890's recorder of irish history & culture in worcester any of these ring a bell?
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I have a James Dee marrying a Mary or Margret Whalen on Aug. 12, 1841. (Fr. Fitton) A male Callahan and Mary Corcoran witnessed. James and Mary/MArgret appearently lost a child: James on Aug. 17, 1846 as the parents name's are James & Margret Dee in the town of Worcester's death records. This date means that the family used Tatnuck Cemetery (No St. John's Cemetery yet).
"Rosanna" Dee died at age 31 on Sept. 9, 1836 She was the dau. of John & Mary Davis and the wife of James Dee, according to a stone in St. John's Cemetery. Notice that she died more than a decade before St. John's Cemetery was established. She, too, once rested at Tatnuck (est. 1835).
forgive my misspellings, J
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I went to St. John's cemetery and got the burial record of Maurice Dee & his wife Mary Burke buried in section Prudence B 59, so I could get approximations of death dates. Maurice was buried Nov. 21, 1938 There's a thomas Dee buried Nov. 10, 1939, Mary Burke Dee was buried March 17 , 1954 (St. Pat's Day) Their daughter married Joseph O'Connell she (helen) buried March 25, 1981. The only obit I could find was for Helen Dee O'Connell Whose daughter Mary was a special ed. teacher for the worcester school system and her other daughter H. Denise Newton ( Mrs. Richard) lives in Las Cruces New Mexico in 1981. Hope this helps you, James. I can send you the copy of what I have if you email me your mailing address to mer330@hotmail.com.
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I live in Barre. Do you need death data for the Day who died here? I do research on Barre irish and would be very interested in hearing more about this person..do you think you might be related to jreid who is a Dee descedant? I think they're from wqaterford as well and i know Dee and Day are interchangeable.
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Be careful with the Days back then, as it seems there was a Michael and Hanna (i think this is the Flannigan) that lost 1 yr-old Martin in Feb 1847; and a Michael and Hanora that lost a son John in April 1846. If you work out the birthdates, as recorded in the Town of Worcester's Death Records (p. 199 & 184 respectively), they aren't twins nor is there 9 months between them. One of the couples lost Mary Ann in 1844. All would have started in Tatnuck.
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I'll try to do some Barre research for you, unless you've done it already....
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I have the death of Michael Day 29 March 1870 in Barre son of Dennis and Margaret. I will have to look at valuation and taxes items and other things to try to spot anything else about him.
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Merski,
Is there a "place of internment" column in the Barre death records c. 1870. If so where was Michael buried?
Colleen,
When did Mike and Hanora's Mary Ann die? Was she listed in the Barre death records?
I ask because the one that died in 1844 was listed in Worcester's death records, and I am trying to learn about how/from whom the record was created. Thanks, J
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Colleen,
You must have been to to the Worcester clerks office since the inventory that was conducted a couple years ago.
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Colleen,
A couple of times a Dee/Day shows up as witnesses:
Michael Day and Ann Leatham (A "witness" to many unions) witnessed the marriage of James Ryan to Agnes Houlahan on Jan. 25, 1845
Patrick Day and Ellen McGrath witnessed the marriage of Michael McGedia to Mary McHugh or McKue on Dec. 19, 1848
James Dee and Maria Underwood witnessed the marriage of John Ryan to Elizabeth Mahan on Jan. 7, 1844
Hanora Day and A. Mooney witnessed the marriage of Patrick Coffy to Mary Day on Oct. 2, 1847 (They are in Ward 4 in both the 1850 & 1860 census.)
Mary Dee and Michael Mellon witnessed the marriage of Tom Brannon to Bridget Haring on June 24, 1845
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Went to town clerk's office last night. Michael Day 55 years old died in Barre 29 March 1870 from weakness in the lungs born in Ireland son of Dennis and Margaret Occupation:Farmer Going to historical society and will see if they have anything there...
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Found a Dee/Day descendant on the Crotty board at Genforum! Advised her to jump on and read this board...she's related to capecolleen! Needs help with the family stuff!
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Hi Everyone!
I received a notice from Mary Ellen Radziewicz alerting me to this discussion. I am indeed in Ireland right now, Dublin to be exact, researching the Day/Crotty/Powers/Flanigan family lines. I've been to the National Library of Ireland and to the National Archives of Ireland. Unfortunately, despite the wealth of information I brought with me, I have not had any success so far. I will be driving to Co. Waterford tomorrow where I will spend the weekend. Here's what I'm researching though...my gggrandfather, Michael Day, was born on 3/13/1813 in Co. Waterford, possibly in the civil parish of Fenoagh/R.C. Parish of Carrickbeg. The R.C. baptismal records for that parish only go back to 1842, so no luck on the birth records there. His brother, Patrick Day, was born in 1822 in Co. Waterford. Michael & Patrick's parents were Dennis & Margaret O'Toole. Michael was married to Hannah Flanigan, which I got from my ggrandfather's death certificate but have not found the record/place of their marriage, and they did NOT have a child named Mary Ann. Their children were Margaret, John (died in infancy), Catherine (died in her early 20's), James (my ggrandfather), Ellen a.k.a. Nellie (married James Crotty), & Michael Dennis. Michael Sr. remarried after Hannah's death in 1864 to a woman named Ellen Flynn. They had a son named John, who also died before adulthood. They lived in Worcester until the late 1860's but then moved to a farm in Barre. Michael died in 1870 and his will was not probated until 1888, with my ggrandfather James as the executor.
I have searched quite a few parish records here looking for information on Dennis & Margaret Day, but the microfilm that contains the parish records will make your head spin! Plus, they could have been married in Margaret's parish church, so not sure if they were actually married in Co. Waterford. I have noted quite a few Day/Dea/Crotty/Flanigan births/deaths for Carrickbeg and for Portlaw Parish (adjacent to Carrickbeg), but still no luck so far. However, I will most likely have a good running start when I travel to Co. Waterford and I can also talk to the folks at the Waterford Heritage Center. I'll be staying at a B&B just to the north of Waterford City and I'll be on the run all weekend. I fly back to Dallas on Monday the 18th.
I really love it here and will be sorry to leave, but I'll be glad to sleep in my own bed.
Kelly Day
PS: Greetings Helen D. (a.k.a. capecolleen)!!!!
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In Reference to the Courtney family:
"The child count went down because the girls married(Nellie my great married James Crotty).The Merrifield St. Courtneys' are my line in both Julia's obit and Daniel's the Merrfield St. address was given. Frances moved first to Rhode Island and I think he boarded with my maternal gr grandmother which was a total surprise...."
Now I'm totally confused, where there two James Crotty married to Nellie (One Courtney, one Day)?
Cheryl
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Well I went to the historical society and didn't find much... in the 1870 Valuation and taxes under non-residents it says" Michael Day, heirs of Worcester, house $350 Barn $150 J.A. Stone place 61 a (acres?) $800 Couldn't find anything else! Worcester county deeds has records of transfers. I imagine that Michael Day bought the J.A. Stone farm with 61 acres, a house and a barn. Because I couldn't find anything earlier, I'm wondering if he purchased it from Stone or his heirs in 1869 or 1870 and then died! By the way the internment was worcester for Michael Day, don't think I told you that. Also you should check all of the Dee info...could you be related?????
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I'm descended from Brigid KIRWAN, born in the 1850s in Graiguearush/Graiguerush, Waterford, Ireland - & her aunt (?) Nanno _may_ have married a DEE (I just learnt this today), plus my family have several photographs of the KIRWAN siblings taken at various photographic studios in Worcester, Massachusetts, in the 1890's.
I've learnt that Nanno was/is a nickname for Hanora. My Hanora KIRWAN may have been your Hanora DEE or Hanora DAY?
You can see my other post in the Worcester Irish Genealogy/History section if you like, with more details.
Be careful with the Days back then, as it seems there was a Michael and Hanna (i think this is the Flannigan) that lost 1 yr-old Martin in Feb 1847; and a Michael and Hanora that lost a son John in April 1846. If you work out the birthdates, as recorded in the Town of Worcester's Death Records (p. 199 & 184 respectively), they aren't twins nor is there 9 months between them. One of the couples lost Mary Ann in 1844. All would have started in Tatnuck.
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Capecolleen and Kelly, I asked the woman in the barre Town Assessor's office about the farm that michael bought. It looks like John Allen Stone owned a property called Desper Place 61 acres and sold it or it was sold to Michael Day. The land may be on Desper rd. which may be part of the Stevens farm bed and breakfast. The deed reference is book 9258 page 1. You might try calling the stevens farm 978-355-2227 and they may be able to help you figure that out or you can go to the registry of deeds at the Worcester County Courthouse. Mary Ellen aka merski
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You know, I actually called her around 10 am myself today! She told me she HAD info and just had to find it. If the farm location is on their property, I think you should come to lovely Barre this Fall to see it and we'll meet! She runs a bed & breakfast Irene and Richard Stevens
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Went to the Library looking up some stuff for another Dee and found these Dee marriages in Worcester and will post them here....
David Dee & Margaret Lanligan 2 Sept. 1856 (His parents David & Alice)
Bridget Dee & John McNamara 8 April 1849
Ellen Dee & David Vail 16 Aug. 1853 (her parents John & Mary)
John Dee & Ellen Powers 16 Dec. 1875 (His parents James & Mary)
William Dee and Mary King/kane 20 Oct. 1866 ( His parents James & Mary) ... is he the brother of John just above???
I did not trancribe Day or O'Day marriages...I imagine there are too many
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From Worcester Mass.'s Honor roll of civil war soldiers
William J. Dee 34th Massachusetts Company A Mustered 22June 1862 20 Years old Laborer by Trade. Mustered out 16 June 1865
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Hello!
I finally read through the entire string and I have some information regarding a couple of items in here. One is concerning the farm in Barre. Although my g-g-grandfather. Michael Day, died in 1870 his will did not go through probate until July, 1888. My g-grandfather, James Day, was the executor because Michael's brother Patrick Day, who was named as executor in Michael's will, died just 3 or 4 months eariler. By the time Michael's will went through probate, the son of Michael and his second wife Mary Flynn, John, was deceased. I'm assuming that the farm would have been sold around this time since they waited 18 years to probate the will. I have not been able to find John Day's death record, so I'm not sure of the date or place of his death, but I assume it was in Barre. No idea about what happened to Mary Flynn Day after 1888.
Anyway, Merski also put an incomplete Irish town name at the beginning of the string she found on a tombstone. The town in Ireland is Garravoone and it is in Co. Waterford. I am researching that town name to see if it was near or around "Fenney" (possibly Fenoagh), from Michael Day's naturalization record, which was in the R.C. parish Carrickbeg.
I copied all of the Day B/M/D indexes for Worcester, so if anyone needs me to check them for someone specific, please let me know. None of the Dee names provided jibe with anyone I am researching and I've never found any indication that my family's name was Dee.
In talking with folks in Ireland, it would be much more likely for someone with the last name of Dea, pronounced as Day by the Irish, to have their name changed in the States to Day. However, Day & Dee were family names in Ireland, so their names may not have been changed after they immigrated. Dee is a derivation of the O'Dea clan name, so I'm not shutting out the possibility but there just hasn't been any indication of that name in my research. There are very few Day's/Dea's/Dee's in Co. Waterford records. I did find some Day names in Co. Tipperary, but I think I need to continue my research here in the States until I have more solid information. Irish R.C. records are very incomplete, thanks to laws set down by Cromwell who was responsible for killing nearly 40% of the Irish R.C. population in the 18th century. Very nasty man, I think.
Sorry for the long note...hope some of this helps. Helen, I tried to call you one time after I returned but haven't tried again. Did you ever get any useful information from those people you called about the farm. Let's talk soon! ;D
Kelly Day
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The worcester Roll of honor for civil war soldiers I photocopied from the 1862 or 1863 Worcester city directory. I think Nutt's history also has a listing. I don't think its online. There are some interesting websiites online. A wonerful site for the Massachusetts 15th Volunteers is online and even includes pictures! There are worcester folks in the 15th. My Great grandmother Julia Donohue O'Connor worked as a domestic servant for Henry Emerson Smith. I actually saw his photo!