Worcester Talk
Genealogy => Worcester Irish Genealogy/History => Topic started by: barrel on March 08, 2009, 08:06:47 AM
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Here is what family data I have. It's surprising what tidbits of history one finds in a forgotten file...
Marion (or Mary Ann) COSTELLO and James ELLIS of Worcester.
James was born ca 1835 in Ireland - specific location unknown. He was a tea merchant.
Marion was born ca 1840 in Ireland - specific location unknown.
I have no immigration, marriage or death information.
They had 4 living children:
1. Charles S ELLIS born Massachusetts ca 1864; married Martha HENRY in 1890 in Belfast, her birthplace. They lived in New York - time period unknown.
I have no death information on Charles or Martha.
(**NOTE: Martha's step-mother was Rose Anna COSTELLO - 2nd wife to John HENRY, Martha's father.
Rose HENRY and Marion ELLIS were sisters! Rose died in Worcester in 1932 and at the time she was living with her niece, Martha McTAGGART on Schussler Road. Rose and Marion's sister, Margaret, married David McTAGGART of Worcester. The COSTELLO sisters had at least one brother, possibly named Charles. )
2. Edith M ELLIS born Mass. ca 1867
3. Frank H. ELLIS born Mass. ca 1869
4. Marion C. ELLIS born Mass. ca 1884
I live in Western Canada and unable to access any of the local MA resources available for researching this family myself. I'd greatly appreciate any help in locating descendants and ancestors of James and Marion.
Beryl
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marriage: 4 Oct. 1858 in Lowell Mass.
James Ellis 23yrs. Moulder (iron) born in Ireland Parents Thomas Ellis and Margaret Smith he was living in Boston
Mary A. Costello 20Yrs. Parents Samuel and Annette she was living in Lowell
Death: James Ellis in Worcester, Mass. 17 Sept. 1888 Merchant 54 yrs. old from Diabetes Parents Thomas Ellis and Margaret Smith
I can ask a friend to see if they are buried in St. John's cemetery in Worcester
James Ellis was pretty well off from the 1870 census and it says he was an iron Moulder, which I believe is a skilled occupation.
Do you have any idea if he served in the army before or during the civil war? I can't seem to find them in the 1860 census, although i know that their son Charles Samuel was born in Worcester in 1863
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1900 census says that she birthed 6 children 4 of which are living. Found birth of Maud in 1872...did she die before 1900? Frank's real name was Franklin Henry Ellis who carried on the tea and coffee trade married Ava Townsend in 1903 minister officiating. We should be able to find out more about this family. I need to get to worcester..... Beryl, what a great name...now I get the pun of your user name!
Mary Ellen :D
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Wow! Thank you so very much for helping me with this family.
A few comments/questions/answers to the previous posts:
1. James and Marion ELLIS' marriage date of 4 Oct 1858 agrees with a sentence in an old letter that Marion, who was the oldest in her family, married "when the youngest child, Rose, was born". I could never verify that statement until now. Thank you for that.
QUESTION 1: On the marriage info are there any witnesses listed? Were their home addresses recorded? I suppose you would have mentioned that if there were.
QUESTION 2: Was it a civil or church marriage? And where in Lowell? It may be helpful to find out what religion they were. I've never known.
2. Regarding the cemetery, Rose and the McTaggart's were buried in Forest Hills Cemetery, Fitchburg. Maybe the Ellis' were too.
3. Military service: I've not located any military service for James or his sons. Mind you, I haven't looked. I concentrated on finding their BMDs and locations.
4.In 1878 Worcester City Directory I found reference to James and a Charles DECOSTELLO, in partnership of the business called,"Ellis and DeCostello". I'm still working on exactly when the business started. So far 1878 is the earliest. The business ended after 1881 when Charles became a partner in a cigar business called "Costello & Shaw" which continued until 1903. Charles also changed his surname for DeCOSTELLO to COSTELLO but took the middle initial "D" as in Charles D. Costello. This could possibly be Marion's brother, Charles. According to the few Worcester city directories I've been able to find online, Charles' and James' families were living at the same addresses at different times.
5. I haven't been able to find James and Marion in the 1860 census either. I have just found them in the following Censuses in Worcester: 1870 & 1880 (James, Mary A, Charles, Edith and Frank), 1900 (Mary, Frank, Edith, Marion C).
6. In the 1900 census Marion says she immigrated in 1860. This is in error if she was married in 1858. I'd like to find her arrival to USA. James' as well.
7. Thank you for the tidbit on the birth of their child Maud in 1872. She obviously died before 1880 as she isn't listed in the census.
8. Another interesting fact about Frank, their son. In the 1880 census he is noted as being deaf. He was 11 years old at the time but wasn't going to school as Charles and Edith were. What an achievement in that time to have taken over an established business with that physical challenge.
9. Since James was a successful businessman could there be a newspaper obit or article on him in 1888?
10. Charles D COSTELLO's wife is Addie L. I just found an entry in the 1918 Worcester City Directory that "Addie L Costello, widow fo Charles D, boards 6 Wyman". I'll have to find some earlier directories to locate the time of Charles' death.
I will try to locate Marion and James arrival to USA. Also when and where Marion died (probably Worcester) and Charles. If his parents are the same as Marion's what a breakthrough that will be!
Thank you Mary Ellen for the nice comment about my choice for my username. <grin>
Beryl
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I'd like to go to Worcester this week if I can. I think I can look up the Naturalization date for James Ellis. I know that Marion implied that she emigrated in 1860 as well, but for the irish, it seems that specific years were not noted. I know as I've gotten older that's happened to me also. I have a guess that the Ellis's were catholic and perhaps as they accumulated weath/status and assimilated converted. There's a joke about what a republican is, a democrat that becomes wealthy! Please take no offense.
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Helen, will you post more details whn you find time to do the genealogybank research. We'd all like to know more about the worcester irish Community. Thanks! Mary Ellen
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James and Marion (Mary A.) were married by Rev. Theodore Edson DD of St. Anne's Episcopal church (probably called church of england way back then)
Trinity church in Worcester Mass is I believe Lutheran denomination.
BTW Lowell has a big folk festival every year and we have enjoyed many presentations in St. Anne's courtyard
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I wonder why they were assaulted? What hooligans!
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James Ellis' business:
from the Worcester City Directory of 1878, the business is listed as
"The People's Tea Co. Store, Ellis & DeCostello, 30 Southbridge".
It was listed in City directories until 1883 when the business is under James' name at 545 Main.
After James' death, his wife Mary continued on for a time and then their son, Frank, took over as Mary Ellen mentioned earlier.
Some of their addresses over the years (according to the city directories) are:
1862: 17 Charlton; 1867: 10 Salem; 1873: 26 Salem 1878: 24 Salem** 1883/1885: 41 Oxford;
1888/1889:26 Hermon; 1890/1892: 26 Salem 1910/1912: 24 Salem
** An interesting note: Charles DeCostello was living with James and Mary in 1878.
So from this we see that James and Mary were in Worcester by 1862 after their marriage in 1858. Still no success in locating them in the 1860 census. I've also tried looking for them in Boston and Lowell since that is where they were living prior to their marriage. The hunt goes on....
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From Helen: "Another article in 1890 -- a James Scanlon and James Linnehan charged with assault on Frank Ellis and then they pounded his father James -- took place on Southbridge St. Worcester."
What hooligans is right, Mary Ellen! James would have been 55 and Frank about 22. How upset Mary must have been!
Does the article say what their sentence was?
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Rose I COSTELLO:
I found Rose in the 1920 census in Worcester Ward 7 precinct 9. She's married to Louis H CRAWFORD, who was born in Canada, and living at 6 Wyman along with her mother Addie, Charles' widow.
Beryl
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Helen, the obituary or the funeral story may have the burial location for the Ellis's. I'd love to be able to send Beryl a picture of the grave. Did any of the census findings for Charles DeCostello mention naturalization or emigration years? Was that Charles Marion's brother?
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RE: Charles D. COSTELLO date of immigration:
I found Chrales in the 1900 census with wife, Addie, and 2 daughters Rise I. (b. 1886) and Sonie M. (honestly - that's what it looks like!) (b. 1881).
Charles' date of immigration is 1872. Now back to the passenger lists.....
Beryl
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Oops! Apology for the typos in above post from me, Beryl. I haven't finished my first coffee of the morning ...need I say more...
Correction: Charles and daughter Rose.
Search for Charles D COSTELLO's parents to verify relationship to Mary and James ELLIS:
I noticed that Charles wife, Addie L. (nee Agnes GRIGGS. Thank you Helen, for this info!) was born in Massachusetts.
- If Charles arrived in US in 1872.
- And the 1880 census shows that they had a son, Charles L. born 1879 (but he's not in the 1880 census so he is probably deceased.)
- Then Charles and Agnes were probably married between 1972 and 1879.
- The marriage document would give their parents names. And if Charles parents are the same as Marion's parents, then they're related.
QUESTION: were they married in her home state of Mass. or elsewhere?
(Please excuse elementary thought process. It helps me work things out in my head.)
Beryl
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RE:James and Mary Ann ELLIS - birthplace possibilities
I found their son, Frank, in the 1930 census. In it both parents' birthplaces are "Irish Free State".
From Wikipedia, this was formed in 1922 and at first included all Ireland but the Northern states withdrew. So the counties in the Irish Free States are those not under Northern Ireland.
So James and Mary Ann were NOT born in Northern Ireland.
Is my understanding of history and assumption correct? If not, please correct me.
Beryl
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I saw Charle's son in the 1880 census he was 11 months old. Going to the library for you, Beryl,,,,wish me the luck O' the irish
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I think I found naturalization dates for James Ellis and Charles Costello and a few births of children who died young. Can't post now because I have to head into work.
Sending for the naturalizations may be good to do, Beryl, as it may give emmigration date and place of birth. I'll email you separately but will post info as received later tonight.
What is Charles' approximate birth year?
You may also be misled about the accuracy of Ireland/Irish free states. I'm not sure a massachusetts Clerk would know the difference, so don't put too much on it...
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History question:
In the 1930 census, James and Mary A ELLIS's son, Frank, said his parent's birthplaces were the "Irish Free States".
Can someone tell me what counties would be included in the Irish Free States in 1930?
Thanks, Beryl
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RE: Charles D COSTELLO's (or Charles DeCOSTELLO) approximate date of birth
In the 1900 census, Charles birth date is Aug 1846 and born in Ireland.
Beryl
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Success!
Naturalizations James Ellis born 30 May 1835 in Ireland Nat. 16 Sept. 1867 vol.5 p25 Worcester Superior Court
Charles Costello born Aug 1846 in Ireland Nat. 21 Aug, 1881 vol. 16 p49 Worcester superior Court
Worcester vital records Parents: James & Marion Ellis births: Charles Samuel 1 Nov. 1863, Edith M. 18 Sept 1868, Franklin 18 Oct. 1868,George Herbert 20 July 1860, Maud 4 July 1872 (called "Fannie"), Madeline C. 20 Jan. 1882
deaths: Fannie died 7 July 1876 of a stoppage, George died 5 Apr. 1863 of lung fever
For Charles & Alice (Adeline) Costello: births: Gertrude Swain 6 July 1990, Rose Isadore 11 Apr. 1886
deaths: Gertrude died 27 Nov. 1891
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RE: James ELLIS and Charles COSTELLO and families
WONDERFUL! I am so pleased, Mary Ellen! I can't wait to see what the naturalization records have about their parents, etc.
You and Helen have been so helpful.
I had given up the search for these 2 families a few years ago but decided to give it one more try when I ran across the Worcestertalk list. I'm so glad I did because with your help the lost are found. It also reminded me of a long forgotten Ellis/Costello file that had a few at-the-time-considered-unimportant-facts that have since been verified and added pertinent leads to some other related family lines. Thank you. Beryl
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So I gather you want me to send off for those records for you? They tend to give arrival day and port. County and place of birth, no parents listed though, though not always and the sponsors may be friends, relatives or bosses. Ellis's is a relatively early naturaliztion and Costello's a later one.
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RE:Charles and Addie L COSTELLO and family
From Previous post "For Charles & Alice (Adeline) Costello:
births: Gertrude Swain 6 July 1990, Rose Isadore 11 Apr. 1886
deaths: Gertrude died 27 Nov. 1891"
A couple questions about the above entries from vital records:
- I can see that Addie could be a shortened form of Adeline but where does Alice fit in? Is that her given and Adeline her middle name? I'm confused.
- Gertrude Swain's birth is obviously 1890. And she's the third daughter and first deceased child we've found of Charles and Addie.
Addies entry in the 1900 census records that she gave birth 5 times but had at the time of this census only 2 living children. The two are:
- Rose Isadore (see above entry in Births) and
- a daughter entered as "Sonie M" (or from a reply by Helen from a different source "Lou--" ) who was born Oct 1881 in Mass and was 18 at the time of the census.
Is it possible to locate this daughter's real name as well as the names of the 2 remaining unknown and deceased Costello children?
Beryl
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Edith was born in 1866 not 1868...I made an error in my posting. Willtry to find more kids for Charles and wife when I have some time. I used the Worcester index for those birth and death records. I like using them as they list the parents right in the index so you don't have to look up each record.
We were wondering about how you're related to them and how the branch went out to Saskatewan pardon the mispelling.
I'm going to email the Archives this morning and charge the fee on my credit card. They will mail me the results, so please email me your mailing address.
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Please forget the Adeline/alice stuff, I made a mistake as I was typing in the dark...there is no alice! I am kinda surprised that there seems to be no naming traditions in either family. One would expect that a boy would be named Thomas after James' father though Maud I believe is a name variant of Margaret. Their kids don't seem to have overtly "irish" christian names and with a last name of Ellis could be mistaken for English at a time when "irish need not apply" prejudices, but Cosetto is such an Irish name and DeCostello changes it to more french-like. They may have gotten grief from the worcester irish catholics and if they had money and didn't help the poor, they were in BIG TROUBLE!
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Worcester vital records Parents: James & Marion Ellis births: Charles Samuel 1 Nov. 1863, Edith M. 18 Sept 1868, Franklin 18 Oct. 1868,George Herbert 20 July 1860, Maud 4 July 1872 (called "Fannie"), Madeline C. 20 Jan. 1882
Just to make sure I understand the above record:
- For all of her children's entries, was "Marion" her given name or did she ever use "Mary Ann" or "Mary"?
- The last daughter's entry in the record was definitely "Madeline C. " and not "Marion C."? In any reference (census, family letters, etc ) I have of this daughter she is always Marion.
I just want to make sure I have it correctly. Thanks.
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As I recall it was both ways Marion & Mary. It was definitely Madeline for the daughter. Sometimes I think people went by the name they were called rather than their legal name. My MIL was shocked to find out that she was named Hendrika but was called Harriet all her life!
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RE: Saskatchewan connection to Worcester Ellis & Costello families
James and Marion/Mary A. ELLIS (maiden name is COSTELLO)
She had (at least) 2 sisters in Worcester that we know of:
1. Margaret (nee COSTELLO) McTAGGART, Mrs. David McTaggart (Worcester Warp Compressing Co)
2. Rose /Roseanna (nee COSTELLO) HENRY, my husband's great-grandmother.
Rose was the 2nd wife to John HENRY and had 5 children (1 son & 3 daughters surviving). Their son, Costello John HENRY, is my husband's grandfather who came to Canada and homesteaded in Sask.
According to family letters the Costello sisters had a brother, Charles, in Worcester. I think this is Charles D COSTELLO.
A further connection to ELLIS family is through James and Marion's son, Charles S ELLIS. He married Martha HENRY, a daughter from Rose's husband's first marriage. (Martha would have been 6 or 7 when Rose became their mother and they were very close.) So Charles married the step-daughter of his aunt Rose. (NOTE: I've found at least a second Charles S. ELLIS in Worcester which is making my search for OUR Charles very frustrating.) Charles and Martha lived in New York for a time but the family story is that one or both of them returned to Worcester later.
Rose eventually came to US from Belfast Ireland where her children were born and lived in New York before moving to Worcester between 1910 and 1920 to live with her nieces, the McTaggarts. Rose died in 1932.
So I'm trying to find our great-grandmother's Rose's parents, the Costellos. Since Plan A didn't give me any help, I'm going to Plan B (Rose's siblings) and this brings me to Worcester.
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Beryl, have been to cemetery and have more info re your family. Still haven't from the National Archives. Will post info tonight after I get home from work after 8 pm.
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Hope cemetery
plot owned by James Ellis (note that # after name is age at death) and date is burial date
3/28/20 Mary A. Ellis
3/15/12 Edith McLellan
6/28/23 Martha Ellis
4/16/26 Charles S. Ellis 61
1888 James Ellis 54
no year George & Maud Ellis
no year Mother Ellis
10/18/52 Marion C. Ellis 79
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Lot owned by James Colbath & Charles DeCostello (use same instructions as the earlier listing)
1/17/09 Charle D. Costello 62
1/25/06 Rideout (infant)
9/3/04 Griggs infant
11/30/91 Gertrude S, Costello 1 (I think she's listed twice on the burial card)
11/27/25 Adeline L. Costello 71
1880 Charles L. Costello 1
5/28/38 Louis A. Crawford 62
9/20/50 Rose C. Crawford 64
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After I found Charles D. Costello's burial date I went to the Library and tried to dind his obit. in the Worcester Telegram. Notice gave his death as Jan. 15 1909 in Boston. Gives his former connection to Worcester and details of his sisters there was a sister who married a Calvin Goodwin and was in worcester at his death. He was quite the mason and was also an Odd Fellow.
Took pics of both stones. Srprisingly there was a small stone for james Ellis. There were other stones on the lot that I didn't look for because I didn't look carefully enough at the plot map. Costello had a nice sized monument. Both were on the hill in the old part of the cemetery, featring a varied landscape and mature trees planted in a park like setting. I will mail this stuff off to you along with the naturalization papers when I finally get them, but for now you have some dates and possibly some names to do some work on.
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One of Charles Costello's sisters was named Elizabeth (Lizzie) who married Calvin Goodwin, Their son Wilmot Costello Goodwin married in worcester. Marriage record states that he was born in New Brunswick. I wonder if Charles & sisters emigrated together and landed in New Brunswick first and then came down to the states.
I also wanted you to know that I put a smooth,round beach stone on each monument to show that someone visited those graves.
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I've spent the past week looking after business and family affairs and can finally get back to the computer.
What a great surprise to see the 4 previous posts from you, Mary Ellen. (Grave info, etc). It's wonderful to find the final resting places and, as you mentioned, some new names to pursue in locating descendants.
Your post about Charles' sister in New Brunswick raised another interesting possibility. I had wondered if some family members settled in eastern Canada because I found two old postcards from a trip there and the tone of the message sounded like a visit to family or friends instead of just a pleasure trip. As well, I believe some of the ship fares were cheaper if you were going to some Canadian ports that New York, etc. I will definitely pursue it now that I have a couple names. Thank you for this as well.
I look forward to the pictures! Thank you again.
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We couldn't download the pics from the cemetery to email you so my husband is going to get the images onto photos at Walmart. Say a little prayer that they contact me from the archives so we can get those naturalizations.
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I'm looking forward to seeing the naturalization papers, etc. Thanks again for your help, Mary Ellen.
I had some interesting developments regarding the new names to search thanks to the grave entries you posted.I
RE:Elizabeth COSTELLO and Calvin GOODWIN
I've located them in the 1881 Canadian Census in Westmorland, New Brunswick.
They had 3 sons and if I can locate any descendants I hope to fill out the Costello side a bit more with info on Elizabeth's siblings, birthplace, parents, etc.
Here is the info from the 1881 Census:
GOODWIN, Calvin: age 35 b. ca 1845 Nova Scotia
" Elizabeth age 31 b. ca 1850 Ireland
" Lewis S. age 8 b. ca 1873 USA
" Clarmont age 4 b. ca 1877 New Brunswick
" Wilmot age 2 .b New Brunswick
On Google Booksearch I found this information in a GOODWIN Family reference (only a small piece of a page):
Calvin Louis GOODWIN b. 14 Dec 1845 in Nova Scotia d. 09 Feb 1912 Worcester, MA.
He married Elizabeth COSTELLO b May 1850 Ireland d. 23 Apr 1916 Brooklyn NY.
The tidbit you gave me about their son Wilmot marrying in Worcester is the most I have so far regarding any their sons. Hopefully a bit more searching will bring something up.
I will try to trace this families movement between US and Canada as well as the ELLIS and COSTELLO families.
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RE: Charles COSTELLO's obit
Mary Ellen, could you post all of the obit you found of Charles, please? I'd like to type out a copy of it for Charles' section in my Costello Binder. Or will it be in with the naturaization papers? Thanks.
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RE: Elizabeth COSTELLO immigration
Looking at the birth places of Elizabeth and Calvin GOODWIN's boys, the first one, Lewis, was born in the USA in 1877 so I'm thinking that Elizabeth came directly to the USA from Ireland instead of through Canada.
If I can find out where Lewis was born I may be able to locate the marriage place of Calvin and Elizabeth. The search goes on...
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I have a photocopy of Charles Costello's obit and I will mail it off to you. Please email me your mailing address at my verizon account.
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I've emailed the National Archives again in case they lost the info for the two Naturalizations. I'm as excited about getting them soon, as much as you are Beryl! What will they tell us?????
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Yes, the anticipation is excruciating! It's like waiting to give birth...
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Yay! NARA has finally asked for payment so hopefully will be getting Naturalization records for James Ellis and Charles Costello!
Don't know nuthin' 'bout birthin' no babies!
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The mental waiting is kind of the same for both (eg waking up in the night thinking about it and in the morning thinking "Will it arrive today???" etc). But from someone who knows a bit 'bout birthin' babies I suppose the only differences are, with the naturalization papers, it doesn't hurt when they come out of the mailbox and there's no 20-year commitment after they arrive. <grin>
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LATE BREAKING NEWS!!!!!
Rec'd results of Naturalizations
Charles De Costello born in Monivea Galway came into New York on or about July 4th, 1874
Sponsors Horace Briggs and Nathan Taylor
James Ellis born in county Leitrim and arrived in Boston the 18th day of May 1853 (? hard to read)
sponsors Artemas Hawes and Parker Holden
Now I'll try to find passenger stuff now that I have ports and dates. Beryl will mail all of this to you tomorrow. YAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!! ;D
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James Ellis 19 May 1853 from Liverpool to Boston on the ship Windemere!!!! check out other passengers for Ellis or Smith might be siblings or cousins!! Drat! I have to go back to work. Drat! Drat!
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Great news!
I'm heading down to the library to access the ancestry database to see what I can find from the info you just gave me. Beryl
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Any luck on ancestry? I have Grenham's irish surname database and was plugging in names now that we have places of origin. Will write more tonight. Do you know someone named Mclellan....he's posted on genforum with an Ellis/McLellan marriage in Canada. What's amazing is there is an Edith McLellan who died in 1912 buried with the Ellises is this just a coinky-dink?
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Okay, one more post and I'm done for the night. I plugged Ellis and Smith into Grenhams and county Leitrim and found two places where rgese names overlapped...Garrigallen and Mohill. Beryl you may want to contact the Leitrim family history center with the data and names to get exact locations in Leitrim. I think it would be money well spent...also for the Galway family History center for Charles Costello and his sisters. That's it for tonight.
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Helen, can you look up in your newspaper database for a death of Edith McLellan buried March 5, 1912? She's buried with the ellises. Thanks! If you can't I may go to the WPL and see if I can find something. Thanks!
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Edith McLellan must be James and Marion's Daughter Edith Ellis born circa 1867. She must have married but I don't see a marriage record in Mass.
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RE: Smith surname?
I couldn't get to the library the other day so I'm going today to checkout the ancestry.com database. I let you know what I find.
Also, I wondered what relationship the Smith surname had with the Ellises? I guess I missed something.
I plugged Ellis and Smith into Grenhams and county Leitrim
Beryl
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RE: Edith McLELLAN
I agree, Mary Ellen, that Edith McLELLAN is probably the child of James and Mary ELLIS.
I'll check for her in the 1910 census under the surname "McLellan" and see what comes up.
Thanks for checking the4 newspaper database, Helen.
Beryl
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RE: Genforum poster - McLELLAN
Mary, Ellen, Thank for sending the query to the McLellan researcher.I haven't heard of him before but then this is the first time I've seen a connection between the McLELLAN and ELLIS surnames.
Beryl
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James ellis death record states that his parents were Thomas Ellis and Margaret Smith. Maud their daughter may have been named for her.
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RE: Another possible married name for Edith ELLIS
I found on familysearch.org (IGI database) the following under "Edith M Ellis". I don't know if it is useful to our ELLIS family but maybe worth a look at. The parents given names are the same and the surnames - close match.
Edith M ELLIS born Woster....MA
Parents: James ELLIS and Marion DE CASTELLO
Spouse: Wm. B ROZISKY on 28 April 1885 Canton, St Lawrence, New York
What do you think?
Beryl
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Sounds like her all right! Perhaps the parents didn't approve, or she was widowed and remarried. Don't know. Mailed stuff off this noon let me know when you get it.
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RE: Edith McLELLAN or ROZISKY?
I'm looking forward to the package, Mary Ellen!
I checked ancestry.com database for Edith McLELLAN in Worcester and some possibilities came up but the birth dates were off, etc.
I'm wondering if Edith McLELLAN who is in the grave plot with the Ellis' is possibly a sister (not the daughter) of James or Margaret?
But I did find William B. ROZISKY (ROZISKEY)[his name was in the IGI familysearch.org database as married to Edith ELLIS] in Worcester City directories from about 1888 - 1890 and he boarded at one of the addresses (26 Hermon) where the Ellises lived. I'll check out a few more directories next week at the library.
Beryl
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If I ever find time to go to the WPL to look for an obituary, that might divulge something.
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Went to the library to find the death of Edith McLellan but couldn't find one. Looked for William Roziskey saw that he removed to Rochester NY in 1889-1890. He was a trucker for the Ellis tea company. What happened to edith? Did they divorce/ Did she die before him? Maybe one of the obituaries later will tell. Do you have any obits for the kids or Marion the mother?
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RE: Edith McLELLAN or ROZISKEY
Well now, Mary Ellen, that IS a puzzle....
I don't know if this is our Edith but this is what I've found on familysearch.org (IGI Marriage record) :
Edith M. Ellis married Wm. B. ROZISKY (or Roziskey) on 28 April 1885 Canton, St. Lawrence, New York.
In Worcester directories of 1888-1890 I found William B. ROZISKEY in Worcester at 26 Hermon, which was one of the homes of the Ellis/Costello family.
There were no McLellands. I'm thinking that a second marriage is possible.
I have not found any obits for members of the ELLIS family.
I'll post the Ellis death dates in the next post. Beryl
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RE: Edith ELLIS
I checked back at my notes over the past few days and this is what I have on Edith:
1900 census she is in Worcester with her mother at 24 Salem. She is single - no reference to a marriage or divorce, etc. She is still "Edith Ellis". I realize census information can be flawed. I'm going back to the library to use ancestry.com and will try to find her in the 1910 census. Beryl
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RE: Ellis Death dates
Here are the Ellis family death dates. I'm looking for their obituaries. I'd appreciate any help or suggestions in obtaining them.
James ELLIS b. May 30 1835 Ireland or England d. 17 Sept 1888 in ? , buried in Worcester Hope Cemetery
He married on 4 oct 1858 Lowel MA, Marion or May Ann COSTELLO(b. Mar 1840 in Ireland d. Buried Mar 28 1920 Worcester) .
Their children all born in Worcester:
- George Herbert ELLIS b. Jul 20 1860 d. 5 Apr 1863 buried Worcester
- Charles Samuel ELLIS b. 1 Nov 1863 d.13 Apr 1926 Brooklyn NY (buried in Worcester 16 Apr 1926)
married Martha HENRY b. 1867-1868 Belfast Ireland d. Brooklyn NY 26 Jun 1923 buried 28 Jun 1923 Worcester Hope Cemetery.
- Edith M. ELLIS b. 18 Sep 1866 died ?
- Franklin Henry ELLIS b. 18 Oct 1868 died ?
- Maud "Fannie" ELLIS b. 7 Jul 1872 d. 7 Jul 1876 Worcester
- Madeline "Marion" Costello ELLIS b. 20 Jan 1882 buried 18 Oct 1952 Worcester
Franklin, who lived in Worcester most or all of his life, was not in his father's Cemetery plot so may have his own family plot.
There may be obituaries for Franklin, Charles, Marion C, and their parents. I'm hoping they can give the whereabouts of their sister Edith (also her surname if married/remarried).
Of the Ellis children, I know for sure that Charles and his wife Martha were childless.
Maybe Franklin, Marion C or Edith had children which will help find ELLIS/COSTELLO descendants to share family history.
Thanks for any help. Beryl
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I don't know where I saw it but there was a william Roziskey with a wife Marion, daughter Marion and granddaughter Marion in one of the census records. weird, huh?
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I wish MY family had articles about them in the old newspapers! Good work Helen!
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I don't know where I saw it but there was a william Roziskey with a wife Marion, daughter Marion and granddaughter Marion in one of the census records. weird, huh?
Yep, that's weird alright. <grin>
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RE: Franklin ELLIS - marriage announcement
On genealogybank an article on the marriage of Franklin Ellis to Eva Ann Townsend. After honeymoon they were residing in the Hall block on Wellington St. Date of marriage 11 NOV 1903. Helen
Thanks Helen! I greatly appreciate this. And the news tidbit about the horse's mishap adds a bit of color to this family's history. It's great!
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I found an interesting connection by reviewing the posts for this topic.
In Reply#15 Helen gave me the names of James Ellis' pallbearers at his burial. They included Nathan TAYLOR and Horace BRIGGS, who, Mary Ellen mentioned in Reply#47, are the sponsors for Charles COSTELLO on the naturalization papers.
Interesting, isn't it.
Hopefully the naturalization papers will give their relationship with the Ellis and Costellos. I can't wait to get them.
Beryl.
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Thank you very much, Helen, for the info on Misters Briggs and Taylor!
Could someone check the front few pages of the 1881 city directory for the release date or the cut off date for new information before they released the 1881 edition of the directory.
I found out that Calvin GOODWIN and family left Canada after the Census was taken April of 1881. Since they are in the 1881 Worcestor city directory, knowing the release date of the directory will help narrow the time period they left Canada. I tried to check for this on the ancestry.com directories but they didn't scan those pages. Thanks. Beryl
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The names Briggs and Griggs are so close that maybe there's a mispelling somewhere and Horace is related to Addie.
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Thank you, Helen, for your help as well. The artlicle syou found answered some questions and added a bit of color to the lives of our ancestors. Greatly appreciated!
The package arrived with nat. papers, pictures, etc. ! Thank you Mary Ellen. I'm sending a mailing to you today. Your package took about 7 working days to get here. This one may be the same. Let me know when you get it, ok?
The obit for Charles was a treasure! I was particularly pleased to have the name of his second daughter and her maiden name - RIDEOUT. Also where she was living. Back to the census I go!
And the naturalization papers! What a thrill to see their signatures written in their own hand.
And the burial info. So many little things on that paper that gives me more of a picture of their lives. Maybe one day I will track down their living descendants and maybe - just maybe - they'll have a picture of them for me to see. What a wonderful day that will be! Beryl
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I hope I'm also speaking for Helen...it's our pleasure to help and this knowledge helps all of us understand the history of the irish in Worcester and it's cool that the family was not catholic...it just adds another dimension.
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Hi,
Breakthrough! Actually 2 of them, thanks to this forum and the helpful people, Mary Ellen and Helen, who helped me get through the first roadblock in researching this family.
1. I just located birth information for Charles COSTELLO's wife, Addie L. She was registered as Lydia Adeline GRIGGS b. 18 Mar 1854 in Brimfield, MA. daughter of Lyman (Layman) F. and Maria GRIGGS. It's interesting how I found her. In the 1920 Census the enumerator had written for her birthplace 'Blumfield' then crossed it out and wrote MA. I found no Blumfield but Brimfield which was close and found her in the IGI. (I did a happy dance.)
2. I found Charles and Addie's daughter, Luis M. (also known as Lou or Louie, which is the french pronunciation of Luis). She was married to Olen Bradford RIDEOUT. His family came from Canada as well. They lived with Rose and Addie according to the 1910 Census then moved to Houlton ME to live with his parents. I located a RIDEOUT family researcher and was able to share some of what I'd found about Olen which they didn't have. The Rideout family history goes way back to the 1700s. Sadly, Olen and Luis had 3 children but none survived.
If anyone wants to know specific dates, etc, plese contact me. I'll gladly share. I do hope there are some COSTELLO descendants out there... Beryl